In this fourth episode of our [Here/Now] series, UW Drama directors Andrew Coopman (MFA 2021) and Desdemona Chiang (MFA 2009) discuss the losses and lessons of the pandemic, whether there's a future for theatre (spoiler alert: yes), why building a truly equitable theatre ecology will require pain and loss, not just growth and change, and why your MFA thesis, though important, is not actually that important. Watch and enjoy!